Only finding property corners?
People often state, “I only what to find my property corners.” This isn’t an unreasonable request, but they must understand what that actually means. There are 4 basic levels of survey work. People choose to do one level or another, depending on what they need the survey for. Often times, the cost of the work is what controls what people want. One of the issues that one must understand is that “upgrading” from one to the next isn’t as easy as a phone call. The level of field work is commensurate with the level desired. While there is some overlap from one to the next, there are elements that are not done in the lesser stages and “upgrading” after the field work was completed would require a return trip. Therefore, charged from a previous order may not discount the upgrade price. For example:
If someone wanted their corners marked, the cost may be $200. If they wanted a full survey, the cost might be $450. If they opted for the former and then later decided they needed the map and what not, my crew would have to go out and do the full survey still. Therefore, there the only credit that might be given would be $50 for making the survey go a bit smoother. The total cost to the client would be $600.
Here are the general levels of work that can be done.
Just marking property corners
This implies that we are not surveying the property and we are just finding the property corners and flagging them. This means that we are not getting out the survey equipment and are not verifying the corners. This also means that if the corners are not found, they are not being set. This last thing becomes an issue when you are dealing with old properties that may or may not have a single corner on it.
Inevitably, people desire more later; the want some certification or written guarantee regarding the completed work. If that work was not a full survey, there really isn’t anything that can be given, short of a receipt. Because of this, it is rare for TNLDS to “just mark corners.”
Surveying without a map.
This is the process of finding, verifying, marking, and replacing (if needed) the property corners. We don’t locate the improvements and I don’t generate a survey map. A key element here is that people seem to want to go this route to save money, but later they want something from me stating that the corners are good and what not. The only thing I can give them is a survey.
Mortgage Survey (non-monumented survey)
This is a full survey, map and all, only that monuments are not replaced if they are not there. A mortgage (or non-monumented) survey may not “find” all the property corners. For example, if the ears corners of a property are extremely difficult to survey, the mortgage survey would not go after them and would reflect them as “calculated points.”
My company doesn’t do these normally. Occasionally we might in order to save the client some money. This is especially useful in mountainous regions where the cost to pursue rear property corners would increase the price of the survey well beyond a “normal” lot survey.
Property Survey
This is what people expect when the hire a surveyor, typically. It doesn’t include marking lines, however. It does mean we locate all known improvements and show them on a map. We also do all the corner stuff from the previous list. We also locate and show any known easements, encroachments, overlaps, gaps, etc.
Here is a chart comparing the differences between each of the types listed above.
| Elements of a survey | Property Survey | Mortgage Survey | Survey w/o map | Finding Corners |
| Locate Corners | included | included | included | included |
| Mark Corners | included | included | included | included |
| Verify corner “accuracy” | included | included | included | n/a |
| Replace missing corners | included | n/a | included | n/a |
| Mark property lines | additional cost | n/a | additional cost | n/a |
| Identify issues with deed/plat | included | included | included | n/a |
| Locate encroachments | included | included | n/a | n/a |
| Locate easements | included | included | n/a | n/a |
| Certify accuracy | included | included | n/a | n/a |
| Prepare plat | included | included | n/a | n/a |
| Testify in court, if needed | included* | included | n/a | n/a |
Note that marking line is an additional charge. In the old days of surveying, the field work required that the crew traversed each line. Therefore, they could cut line and mark the boundary as they went (within reason). Handheld computers have made surveying easier. To take the path of least resistance and locate only the ends of the line no longer requires a mathematician. We don’t have to move down each line and because of that marking line would increase the time it takes to do the field work because we have to go down each line and that increases the cost.
*The amount of time that is included for court testimony is limited – based on each individual case. Furthermore, failure to disclose the existence of a potential dispute may nullify this “included” service.
I’ve been curious about the different work that a surveyor does, and I’m glad that you talked about there being 4 basic levels of their work. We’ve been needing to have a surveyor come to my dad’s house to get things marked off for him, and it sparked my curiosity about their work. I’m going to have to see if we can find a good local surveyor and try to figure out which of the 4 levels we need for our service! Thank you!
Not every surveyor does every level. I have met many surveyors who will not “only mark corners.” They claim there is too much liability in it. I have found that many people think they just want their corners marked, but later want to have a full survey done. Actually, they just want a copy of the survey without paying for the work. Maybe this is the liability that these others talk about.
My name is Sam Strange 208 Bradford Square Morristown Tn 37814. Can you give me a call ASAP. I really only need one side of my property done, marked. 423-231-0234 If you don’t just do one side, call anyway and we talk about what needs done. Thanks
I am sorry, I missed this comment. If you are still in need of survey work, please email me at tim@tnlds.com
Question – I have a TCC monument (#249) on my property survey, is there a way I can get the GPS coordinates for that monument?
Thanks much.
Mike
p.s. Your website is fantastic for the non-professional. I have learned a lot.
I am not familiar with “TCCC monuments.” Can you elaborate?
I need to ask a question—- how many feet away does the survey line need to be away from a old single wide trailer that was being used for storage but will eventually be removed can the Aubrey line go thru like it’s not there? Thank you
This is literally a zoning question. Every county and municipality have their own rules to how close you can build to a property line. Some have different rules for residences and accessory buildings. Some have no limits at all. You will need to contact either Zoning or Codes enforcement for your region to determine if there is a setback for it.
I need to find the 4 corners of a property I own located at
4971 Jay St
Morristown, TN 37814
I would like to know when you could do it and how much.
Thanks
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i have property in TN that has a spring on it and my neighbor has crossed over onto
my property to run piping across my property to a water storage tank to get his water. this is our retirement home and we are not there full time as of yet , we asked our neighbor if he has done this to please find another sourc4e of water and he said he had not, but the storage tank is there and sitting right next to our property closer than 15 feet . We had an illness and death in our family and hadn’t been back to the property in a while and now we find out he is selling his property ? what rights do we have
If he does not have an easement or rights granted to him via deed for the use of the spring, he likely doesn’t have the right to cross your land for the water. As for the location of the tank, that is a zoning question and you would need to contact zoning or codes enforcement to know what to do about that.
You probably need to talk to an attorney about whether this person has a legal right to access the spring. It is possible and not uncommon, but just because it is there, doesn’t grant the right to use it.
Hi, My name is Dawn, I recently bought a piece of property in the town of Cosby, Sevier Co. Is this an area that you would consider traveling to? I did get a physical address and I am looking to get the property surveyed for an excavator to come in.
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